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Post by crisgenjin on Dec 21, 2021 1:55:40 GMT
Alright, these are my ideas for a possible port of UMK3 on the great little CD add-on. 1: Arcade soundtrack played as redbook audio, fighters' voices streamed via the ADPCM channel and the sound effects use the 6 PSG channels 2: 6 button controller to keep the controls as close to the original as possible 3: Use of the arcade card to keep all the frames of animation and every stage detail 4: Choice of playing tournament mode -Strictly with the PC Engine multitap- I'm pretty confident it would be an amazing conversion, able of trumping the Mega Drive version in the graphics department (And maybe matching the SNES) aside from the usual sprite flicker
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Post by 9EG on Dec 21, 2021 15:46:16 GMT
I am all for any MK port, it'd be great, there's a guy working on one for the GAMEBOY which I've had the pleasure of trying out and it is amazing, I've attached a video below, if on the GAMEBOY then why it wouldn't be possible and even better on the PCE/TURBO is beyond me! www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNMNycvxEQM
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Post by Galahad on Dec 21, 2021 16:22:03 GMT
Any of the Mortal Kombats would be ok for me.
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Post by crisgenjin on Dec 21, 2021 17:12:04 GMT
I am all for any MK port, it'd be great, there's a guy working on one for the GAMEBOY which I've had the pleasure of trying out and it is amazing, I've attached a video below, if on the GAMEBOY then why it wouldn't be possible and even better on the PCE/TURBO is beyond me! www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNMNycvxEQMYeah, it's a really great project. But he hasn't posted updates ever since October 5th. Last year I asked him for the ROM(s), and even the latest build is pretty old
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Post by SignOfZeta on Jan 18, 2022 15:33:15 GMT
All Mortal Kombat games are horrible tacky trash, and on PCE CD they would just be technically inferior ports of horrible tacky trash already sold on a ton of other systems that did it better. The Ultimate in a waste of time.
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Post by DarkKobold on Jan 19, 2022 16:48:18 GMT
Mortal Kombat is still an active franchise, so they have a good reason to protect their intellectual property. Too many amazing fan projects (AM2R!) have gone the way of the dodo thanks to C&D from the original owner. There's a lot of fan projects now, like the SOTN remake for Genesis, that make me scratch my head. It's quite a bit of talent going into something that could be shut down overnight by Konami.
In short, unless its an IP from a long defunct company with an inability to trace IP ownership, this sort of port feels like a waste of time and energy, as you never know when daddy IP is going to lay down the law.
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Post by spenoza on Jan 19, 2022 18:10:07 GMT
There's a lot of fan projects now, like the SOTN remake for Genesis, that make me scratch my head. It's quite a bit of talent going into something that could be shut down overnight by Konami. How long has you-know-who been selling polished bootlegs of Dracula X on PC Engine, even after Konami was notified by multiple individuals? That doesn't invalidate your core complaint, but Konami isn't maybe the best IP-enforcement example.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2022 18:24:15 GMT
There's a lot of fan projects now, like the SOTN remake for Genesis, that make me scratch my head. It's quite a bit of talent going into something that could be shut down overnight by Konami. How long has you-know-who been selling polished bootlegs of Dracula X on PC Engine, even after Konami was notified by multiple individuals? That doesn't invalidate your core complaint, but Konami isn't maybe the best IP-enforcement example. There was/is Intellivania on the Intellivision, but maybe that doesn't count since it's Intellivision?
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Post by DarkKobold on Jan 19, 2022 18:35:52 GMT
There's a lot of fan projects now, like the SOTN remake for Genesis, that make me scratch my head. It's quite a bit of talent going into something that could be shut down overnight by Konami. How long has you-know-who been selling polished bootlegs of Dracula X on PC Engine, even after Konami was notified by multiple individuals? That doesn't invalidate your core complaint, but Konami isn't maybe the best IP-enforcement example.
I imagine now that LRG has the rights to Dracula X, they don't want bootlegs out of anything Castlevania. So while Konami might not care, LRG definitely will care about the Castlevania franchise, and may have enough sway to push Konami to enforce their IP rules. Its still a dangerous thing to sink hours into, regardless.
And even if Konami isn't the best example, the point still stands. Warner Brothers may give a lot more shits than Konami.
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Post by crisgenjin on Jan 20, 2022 9:42:26 GMT
All Mortal Kombat games are horrible tacky trash, and on PCE CD they would just be technically inferior ports of horrible tacky trash already sold on a ton of other systems that did it better. The Ultimate in a waste of time. So you're gonna spew acid for no frickin' reason before even trying out the games, got it
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Post by crisgenjin on Jan 20, 2022 9:44:53 GMT
Mortal Kombat is still an active franchise, so they have a good reason to protect their intellectual property. Too many amazing fan projects (AM2R!) have gone the way of the dodo thanks to C&D from the original owner. There's a lot of fan projects now, like the SOTN remake for Genesis, that make me scratch my head. It's quite a bit of talent going into something that could be shut down overnight by Konami. In short, unless its an IP from a long defunct company with an inability to trace IP ownership, this sort of port feels like a waste of time and energy, as you never know when daddy IP is going to lay down the law. Nintendo easily is the company most obsessed of protecting their IPs, I think we can all agree on that. I've never seen C&Ds from people other than them, so...yeah. There's a pretty low risk here
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2022 13:21:57 GMT
Mortal Kombat is still an active franchise, so they have a good reason to protect their intellectual property. Too many amazing fan projects (AM2R!) have gone the way of the dodo thanks to C&D from the original owner. There's a lot of fan projects now, like the SOTN remake for Genesis, that make me scratch my head. It's quite a bit of talent going into something that could be shut down overnight by Konami. In short, unless its an IP from a long defunct company with an inability to trace IP ownership, this sort of port feels like a waste of time and energy, as you never know when daddy IP is going to lay down the law. Nintendo easily is the company most obsessed of protecting their IPs, I think we can all agree on that. I've never seen C&Ds from people other than them, so...yeah. There's a pretty low risk here I think if it's non-commercial and gives credit any fan game of a Konami property should be safe. But, of course, that probably goes with a game by game basic. If it hurts their brand, confuses fans whether it is a fan game or is a Silent Hill game, then that could be a big no no. The only one I remember them shutting down is the Silent Hill fan game, but Konami has it in for Silent Hill for some reason.
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Post by spenoza on Jan 20, 2022 14:33:58 GMT
One thing to keep in mind is that people who want to remake a beloved game are often using that remake to hone their skills. Remakes can lead to new original titles and are a good starting point for people looking to gain experience. It also can unite fans with different skills sets, and if those relationships are strong, they might continue as a team.
Ultimately, if someone is fulfilled by their work it isn't wasted effort. Works from fan communities can draw more attention to under-appreciated platforms or titles, inspire more people to dabble in programming and hacking, and provide learning experiences. Nobody is obligated to make what WE want them to make, and dumping on their efforts doesn't do them or us any favors.
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Post by SignOfZeta on Jan 21, 2022 2:10:32 GMT
All Mortal Kombat games are horrible tacky trash, and on PCE CD they would just be technically inferior ports of horrible tacky trash already sold on a ton of other systems that did it better. The Ultimate in a waste of time. So you're gonna spew acid for no frickin' reason before even trying out the games, got it You’re mistaken, it’s Reptile that spits acid. Are you suggesting that I’ve never played a Mortal Kombat game or that a fan port on an underpowered system would somehow make the game good?
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Post by spenoza on Jan 21, 2022 2:15:17 GMT
or that a fan port on an underpowered system would somehow make the game good? Underpowered for Mortal Kombat? That wasn’t a complex enough game to require horsepower the PC Engine couldn’t muster. As long as MK had the data it needed for graphics and sound it was happy. If the game or its ports had performance issues on various platforms it was more likely poor coding that anything else.
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