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Post by sunteam_paul on Jun 3, 2020 7:59:03 GMT
"It’s launching on October 6 in Japan for ¥4980, which roughly translates to USD$45. There will be four colours available: black, blue, yellow and red."
"The handheld is only 80mm wide, while the screen is a tiny 1.15 inches across, though it’ll be a little easier to see if you preorder all four handhelds at once, as you’ll get a free replica of the original Game Gear’s “Big Window” magnifying accessory."
"The black one comes with Sonic, Out Run, Royal Stone and Puyo Puyo Tsu. Blue comes with Sonic & Tails, Gunstar Heroes, Sylvan Tale and Baku Baku Animal. Red includes Game Gear Shinobi, Columns and the two Megami Tensei Gaiden games, while yellow has Shining Force, Shining Force II, Shining Force: Final Conflict and Nazo Puyo Aruru no Ru."
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Post by sunteam_paul on Jun 3, 2020 8:01:06 GMT
After the goodwill that SEGA has since the Mega Drive Mini, I'm guessing their next meeting was "How can we produce something that is virtually unplayable and will fleece the fans in the most cynical way possible? I know! Tiny Game Gears with only 4 games!"
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Post by gilbot on Jun 3, 2020 10:01:22 GMT
With that size, virtually no text can be readable, and there are even RPGs in the line up. Even with the free magnifying glass(but why release something that's unusable without extra accessories?) I wonder how comfortable it could be to play with your two hands clingling so close together sandwiched between the tiny console and the magnify glass. The price is just too expensive also.
What to do next? MEGA Watch! Play Mega Drive games on your wrist! Highlights are stat heavy Koei strategy games!
The logical conclusion will be playing Dreamcast games on a bottle cap. Shermue will certainly look nice!
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Post by spenoza on Jun 3, 2020 13:33:26 GMT
I'm pretty sure these are meant to be collectible items, not necessarily practical units. I think if you try to use them for serious gaming, you deserve whatever RSI you get.
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Post by gilbot on Jun 3, 2020 17:50:09 GMT
If it's meant to be collectible item I think stuff like keychains are enough, no need for functioning ones (or should it, with such size, non-functioning one?). Highly detailed model kits are probably more fun.
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Post by sunteam_paul on Jun 3, 2020 17:54:55 GMT
If it's meant to be collectible item I think stuff like keychains are enough, no need for functioning ones (or should it, with such size, non-functioning one?). Highly detailed model kits are probably more fun. That's cool, I'd take little model kits over the GGM any day.
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Post by SignOfZeta on Jun 4, 2020 21:45:47 GMT
With that size, virtually no text can be readable, and there are even RPGs in the line up. Even with the free magnifying glass(but why release something that's unusable without extra accessories?) I wonder how comfortable it could be to play with your two hands clingling so close together sandwiched between the tiny console and the magnify glass. The price is just too expensive also. What to do next? MEGA Watch! Play Mega Drive games on your wrist! Highlights are stat heavy Koei strategy games! The logical conclusion will be playing Dreamcast games on a bottle cap. Shermue will certainly look nice! There are absolutely LCDs nowadays that can display the GG’s native res on a 1” screen. Typical iPhone screens since the Retina name went into use have plenty of pixel density. This wouldn’t be a logical thing to build IMO but it would be way more readable than an actual GG screen. But yes, it’s pointless.
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Post by gilbot on Jun 5, 2020 4:22:19 GMT
Of course, display panels can have very high resolution now (even my mid range smartphone released 2+ years ago has a FHD OLED screen). The problem is, whether or not it can display crispy sharp images in full resolution of the system, stuff are still too small to be seen (especially text smaller than marching ants are not readable), so the magnifier is an essential add on, and even then, with things so small you have to put your fingers between that magnifying glass and the system, so close together, that I think the thing is still barely playable. (And I didn't check the Kotaku article until now. It seems that the screen is still too small with the magnifying glass.)
If it's not meant to be a serious item, such as those tiny key chain arcade machines I'm fine with them, but for this price you'll expect something playable like those MINI consoles. Also, with so few games on each version considering how expensive they are (as if I haven't emphasise this enough)... WTF?
And I think the Kotaku article summed this up nicely: The Game Boy Micro was small. The Game Gear Micro, at least in that distressing promo pic, looks TOO small.
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Post by SignOfZeta on Jun 5, 2020 15:32:56 GMT
Go find a GG screen shot on your phone. Now size it to be about 1” on your screen. There. Can you seriously not read that? If you can’t you need glasses. This is nearly the same size as the GB Micro was, slightly smaller maybe, and I cleared Final Fantasy VI three times on the GB Micro, beat Mother 3 in both English and Japanese, etc.
The OG GG had a screen that was *terrible* and magnification didn’t help. I’d take my chances at playing an RPG over the original any day assuming the screen is a quality part (far from certain but for $50 you’d hope.)
This isn’t a very useful device IMO and I don’t recommend anyone buy it since the GG pretty much sucked anyway but it does bug me to see people want to be the Bill Hicks of gaming so bad they complain about stuff that isn’t real or at least is highly unverified since the thing isn’t even out yet.
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Post by gilbot on Jun 5, 2020 17:50:45 GMT
Go find a GG screen shot on your phone. Now size it to be about 1” on your screen. There. Can you seriously not read that? If you can’t you need glasses. This is nearly the same size as the GB Micro was, slightly smaller maybe, and I cleared Final Fantasy VI three times on the GB Micro, beat Mother 3 in both English and Japanese, etc. At 1", I definitely cannot read that, and I do wear glasses (as with 80% of people living here). Also, it's much smaller than the GBM, if you check the photos at the end of the linked article, thus the quote in my above post.
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Post by Black_Tiger on Jun 5, 2020 19:17:43 GMT
I've been shocked by the over reaction in English forums to this novelty item. Especially in contrast to everyone lining up to buy overpriced hdmi-only plug 'n play mini versions of consoles that they already own and the fakes can't even play additional games. Everyone got excited when tiny Sega consoles were made, which don't function in any but the most important of all: collectibility... then there were tiny consoke key chains, mini Sega girl figurines, tiny schump ship figurines, Megatron Megadrive, etc... Everyone couldn't wait to drop $50 - $150 on novelty gaming items. People also pay a lot of real money for fake boxes of games that don't exist for "pre-crash" consoles. Like sets of them which break down to $20 a box. When tiny arcade cabinets are announced that technically can be played, everyone starts compiling lists of which games they want next and post their hauls of buying two of each. One to open and one to keep sealed. Sega finally releases one of their novelty fan services items with actual functionality and instead everyone gets excited to expose the next "Coleco Chameleon" style scam. Aside from the obvious novelty aspect, if you look at it it's not a proportionately scaled replica. They actually beefed up the pad and buttons and the screen seems to be the same size as the GBA Micro when you bither to factor in the different aspect ratios/resolutions. What I don't understand most of all is the complaints about the screen. I must be the only one who has ever played an actual Game Gear and modern devices like smart phones. I don't believe that Sega could source a screen that wouldn't be a major improvement over the original. The complaints about on a 1.15" screen are often being posted by people on their phones, who can read Game Gear screenshots just fine without zooming in. Here is what a 1.3" screen looks like: youtu.be/q7i6EkbR3is
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Post by dshadoff on Jun 5, 2020 21:13:50 GMT
Well, I'm not against them coming out with a smaller version of the machine, I just think they were too aggressive with the downsizing, and I think that they've probably diverged too far from what would have interested their core demographic. But I could be wrong. Maybe a whole new generation of people need tiny old games.
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Post by SignOfZeta on Jun 5, 2020 22:38:10 GMT
Go find a GG screen shot on your phone. Now size it to be about 1” on your screen. There. Can you seriously not read that? If you can’t you need glasses. This is nearly the same size as the GB Micro was, slightly smaller maybe, and I cleared Final Fantasy VI three times on the GB Micro, beat Mother 3 in both English and Japanese, etc. At 1", I definitely cannot read that, and I do wear glasses (as with 80% of people living here). Also, it's much smaller than the GBM, if you check the photos at the end of the linked article, thus the quote in my above post. So can you not read a paperback or a coin or a watch? Do you need a magnifying glass to read money or a stamp? Is the goofy touch bar on the new MacBooks just a shiny black strip? Do you have to ask someone else what capacity is written on your Micro SD cards? Given that the GB Micro was fully usable with a screen from like 12 years ago or whatever, and since the GG has considerably lower resolution to represent, I’d assume that with the smaller screen we’re looking at...probably a GG Micro with slightly larger pixels than the GB Micro.
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Post by spenoza on Jun 6, 2020 1:31:17 GMT
So, the GG Micro has only 58% of the screen size of the GB Micro for an almost identical resolution. And on this almost half-sized screen, the games will display with pixels scaled up by an awkward 1.875x. That means an in-game pixel (not screen pixel) of the GG Micro will be similar in size to an in-game pixel of the GB Micro. That said, that’s still pretty small and for many folks will cause enough eye strain so as to be unusable except for very short periods of time, especially those of us who have just crested the proverbial hill or are on the down side. There are a lot of folks who, if they try to play this thing, are going to have it tucked right up close to their face.
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Post by SignOfZeta on Jun 6, 2020 4:00:44 GMT
Well, yeah, its small. I always play my Micro with it about 8" from my face. I'm also still using an iPhone SE because I have no interest in a larger display.
I don't get what you mean by scaling the pixels up. Do you have hard info on the screen? I was sorta hoping that it would be a custom screen with 1/1 pixel representation. It is Sega, and it is $50 and the bar has been raised considerably for this type of product...I don't know a lot about Gamegear obviously.
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