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Post by feltempreparatio on Mar 15, 2019 1:48:49 GMT
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Post by gilbot on Mar 15, 2019 3:42:26 GMT
He actually has several copies himself. Ironically people thought of it being long lost(read: those in possession won't give up their copies, as with many other rare or prototype stuff) but all they have to do is to ask the right person. Nonetheless this is great news.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2019 6:11:09 GMT
Game Preservation Society? Fat chance of anything aside from a "We now have a dump. Preservation complete" message and maybe a pic if you're lucky.
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Post by spenoza on Mar 15, 2019 13:34:39 GMT
Did you note the source of the Twitter? Frank Cifaldi. He is big on making stuff available if he is at all able. He has coordinated some public ROM dumps of rare items.
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Post by TailChao on Mar 16, 2019 14:21:57 GMT
This is rad as all hell.
If the rip becomes available I don't doubt it will be emulated at some point, it's like the perfect combination of being difficult and interesting.
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Post by Black_Tiger on Mar 16, 2019 14:49:04 GMT
Even if it's preserved and/or made public, what would it run on? A custom PC-98?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2019 17:04:14 GMT
Did you note the source of the Twitter? Frank Cifaldi. Via Game Preservation Society. lol
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Post by SignOfZeta on Mar 16, 2019 17:06:39 GMT
I...didn’t realize there was more than one. This is very good news indeed EDIT: I looked at the original post, didn’t realize it was a CD. Yeah, this may never run. The PCB was very custom not really being compatible with (hardly) anyone’s TV or anyone’s JAMMA cab since it was HiVision.
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Post by spenoza on Mar 16, 2019 20:59:41 GMT
Did you note the source of the Twitter? Frank Cifaldi. Via Game Preservation Society. lol Yes, Frank helped found the VGPS. And when they can, they try to preserve things in ways they can share, like digitizing print materials and generating ROMs to share. But they do also have to respect certain legal concerns, being a formal organization and all. It certainly isn't their goal to lock everything in a vault. That does nobody any good, really.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2019 21:45:17 GMT
Via Game Preservation Society. lol Yes, Frank helped found the VGPS. And when they can, they try to preserve things in ways they can share, like digitizing print materials and generating ROMs to share. But they do also have to respect certain legal concerns, being a formal organization and all. It certainly isn't their goal to lock everything in a vault. That does nobody any good, really. If that's the case why can't I find anything about it? You sure you're not confusing it with the video game history foundation? they can they try they do If you work there then you could have just said so.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2019 21:48:56 GMT
I...didn’t realize there was more than one. This is very good news indeed EDIT: I looked at the original post, didn’t realize it was a CD. Yeah, this may never run. The PCB was very custom not really being compatible with (hardly) anyone’s TV or anyone’s JAMMA cab since it was HiVision. Hook it up to a device compatible with this:
and output it to a TV via Component video. Not easy but not impossible either.
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Post by spenoza on Mar 16, 2019 23:15:17 GMT
So, Punch, turns out you were right to call me to the mat. I was getting the two organizations confused. Cifaldi helped found the Video Game History Foundation. Joseph Redon and others created the Video Game Preservation Society. I suspect because they are in Japan that different laws govern what they can share and how. Japanese copyright law is less friendly to non-commercial uses than US law is. So you are right to be concerned about any of us getting our hands on it.
My bad. I’ll own that mixup.
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Post by digipiggy on Mar 16, 2019 23:24:48 GMT
man put that on a hucard and I might throw my cash at him
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2019 23:42:34 GMT
So you are right to be concerned about any of us getting our hands on it. I'm not really concerned about that (since it's extremely difficult to have someone capable enough get interested in emulating an unknown hardware by educated guesses like what happened with the Konix Multisystem), I'm really more concerned about nothing at all coming out of it, just a "ok, the disc is safe now. Thanks!" from GPS. It seems like their goal is to be more of a pyramid of games to be opened after the extremely long and stupid international copyright protection period (thx Disney) goes by, but it would certainly help to at least publish images/scans/captures of their library. I know its more of a lack of manpower thing than malice but the end result is the same, might as well put them into an oxygen free time capsule. www.gamepres.org/en/2017/05/18/galacticwars1/Stuff like this would be very welcome if done in a consistent basis and showed the games themselves in more detail.
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Post by SignOfZeta on Mar 18, 2019 19:50:16 GMT
I...didn’t realize there was more than one. This is very good news indeed EDIT: I looked at the original post, didn’t realize it was a CD. Yeah, this may never run. The PCB was very custom not really being compatible with (hardly) anyone’s TV or anyone’s JAMMA cab since it was HiVision. Hook it up to a device compatible with this:
and output it to a TV via Component video. Not easy but not impossible either.
I was referring to in-period, when the requisite monitors were $10,000 or more and how it being HiVison native may make developing the emulator for this nearly-unique hardware even more difficult. Unless someone actually has the PCB I can’t see any reason to mess with actual HiVison. Nobody will make a new HiVision video generator for it just to end up requiring out of production technology to tune it.
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