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Post by soop on Apr 17, 2018 9:48:53 GMT
What is your least favourite system and why? Has to be mainstream, not like the GX4000 or the Pippin.
Mine is the N64. I was so hyped for this console, I completely swallowed all the garbage about specs and Z-buffering. And when it hit the market, it genuinely felt like we were witnessing the second coming of the SNES. Incredible launch titles, even if they were £20 more expensive than Playstation games. And then pretty soon after, we got Ocarina of Time, Mario Kart 64 and Goldeneye. And Star Fox! But looking back, that's pretty much all we got. I think a lot of it is to do with developers like Namco, Capcom and Square jumping ship to Sony after Nintendos restrictive licensing practices dicked them so hard on the SNES. You can see a paradigm shift, with a tonne of releases on the Playstation. Some hit and some miss, but a lot of new popular franchises surfaced in those days, and few of them were on the N64
I can pretty much count the number of titles I want to own on the N64 on two hands, and a lot of them look really crappy and dated (I know, it's the same for a lot of 3D ps1 and Saturn games). Plus, the controller inexplicably used an optical input for the analogue stick!
I feel like it was the start of "Nintendo" as we know them. Their recipe for success that had served them so well for the past 2 decades had run out of steam, and proved that they weren't invincible. They were still innovative, but the N64 told them they needed more than just a quirky controller to sell units (and I think if anything the gamecube solidified that lesson).
Notable N64 games:
1080 snowboarding Mario 64 Ocarina of Time Goldeneye Pilotwings 64 Waverace 64 Lylat Wars
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Post by truxtontradchampno1 on Apr 17, 2018 16:32:01 GMT
Virtual Boy. It looks ridiculous. Its just a Game Boy rebuilt as a pair of goggles. Nothing virtual about it.
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Post by toymachine78 on Apr 17, 2018 17:06:44 GMT
What is your least favourite system and why? Has to be mainstream, not like the GX4000 or the Pippin. Mine is the N64. I was so hyped for this console, I completely swallowed all the garbage about specs and Z-buffering. And when it hit the market, it genuinely felt like we were witnessing the second coming of the SNES. Incredible launch titles, even if they were £20 more expensive than Playstation games. And then pretty soon after, we got Ocarina of Time, Mario Kart 64 and Goldeneye. And Star Fox! But looking back, that's pretty much all we got. I think a lot of it is to do with developers like Namco, Capcom and Square jumping ship to Sony after Nintendos restrictive licensing practices dicked them so hard on the SNES. You can see a paradigm shift, with a tonne of releases on the Playstation. Some hit and some miss, but a lot of new popular franchises surfaced in those days, and few of them were on the N64 I can pretty much count the number of titles I want to own on the N64 on two hands, and a lot of them look really crappy and dated (I know, it's the same for a lot of 3D ps1 and Saturn games). Plus, the controller inexplicably used an optical input for the analogue stick! I feel like it was the start of "Nintendo" as we know them. Their recipe for success that had served them so well for the past 2 decades had run out of steam, and proved that they weren't invincible. They were still innovative, but the N64 told them they needed more than just a quirky controller to sell units (and I think if anything the gamecube solidified that lesson). Notable N64 games: 1080 snowboarding Mario 64 Ocarina of Time Goldeneye Pilotwings 64 Waverace 64 Lylat Wars I concur. N64 for me as well. It was good for drunken Goldeneye and mario kart multiplayer in college, but that was about it. Ocarina of time was good too.
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Post by lukester on Apr 17, 2018 17:26:22 GMT
As someone who didn't grow up during the N64's heyday (PS2 kid here), N64 is the ultimate multiplayer machine in my house. The library is small but I didn't have to put up with any droughts, and it has some of my all time favorite games (Mario 64, Majora's mask, banjo kazooie).
Master System, on the other hand, I can't get into. Not a fan of most of the 1st party either, and though Dragon Trap is great I prefer it on pce. The mickey mouse platformers are awesome though.
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Post by wildfruit on Apr 17, 2018 17:40:10 GMT
Pretty much as you said it soop. Was so excited for n64,was the first console i bought with my own money. I learnt a lesson ( which I have forgotten many purchases since). I never had a snes and thought I'd missed out so I went for the n64 full steam. There are a few worthy titles as you have mentioned but hardly any were worth the extra £10 or so premium compared to other contemporary systems. Also the fact that the general euro model couldn't do rgb and only had rf in the box was atrocious. If it had been rgb i think I could have tolerated it more. Mischief makers was ok tho.
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Post by Black_Tiger on Apr 18, 2018 0:22:45 GMT
With the qualification of being a reasonably known console, then N64 would probably be it for me as well. I appreciate the novelty of 32-bit era 3D, including 32X, Jag and 3DO, but the N64 filtering was the worst thing they could have done to the visuals. Combing cart games without enough bandwidth for textures was a bad idea as well, but might have still had charm without layers of filtering. It just never feels like an authentic experience. The no AA hacks make games so much more enjoyable
A big part for me is that the actual library itself is made up almost entirely of the kinds of games I'm not interested in.
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Post by desh on Apr 18, 2018 4:28:30 GMT
Dang, you are all crapping on my beloved N64. I probably am looking through it with nostalgic eyes because it was the first system I purchased with my own money. There are plenty of games I enjoy on the system and love it to this day.
I can however, remember myself and another friend who was an N64 adopter get aggravated every time a new kick ass PS1 or Saturn game would drop. I ended up biting the bullet and bought a used PS1 when Gran Turismo 2 came out. I also had to have a way to play Resident Evil and Metal Gear Solid. It's funny, I remember reading over and over how N64 would get RE2 and an RE exclusive in Nintendo power. N64 finally did get RE2 but it was like 3 years too late. People were getting ready for the next generation and had moved on.
I have a hard time choosing a disliked system as I can find good games on pretty much any... except Jaguar. I had one a few years back and tried to love it. I found the only game I really enjoyed playing on it was Wolfenstein 3D and that can be played on so many other platforms. I also didn't enjoy the Alien vs. Predator game everyone raves about even though I love the subject material. Do the math, Me + Jaguar = sucks.
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Post by Johnny Turboseed on Apr 19, 2018 4:01:29 GMT
Yeah the N64 feels like low hanging fruit for this question since the overall library is crap. Almost zero rpg's or shooters plus early 3D is not a recipe for fond memories. Buuuuuuut I will say that the top 10 of the N64 is as good as any other, so for contrarian purposes I'll choose the original Xbox. I appreciate it more now looking back since Sega basically treated it like the Dreamcast 2. But I hated the huge controller and never did get into Halo so I just stuck with the PS2 during that generation.
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Post by soop on Apr 19, 2018 7:47:27 GMT
OG Xbox was pretty bad, yeah. Library wise, it's hugely inferior to PS2
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Post by bigusschmuck on Apr 19, 2018 13:36:45 GMT
I'll go with the least played console at my place: the Atari 7800. I felt there was a lot of wasted potential and if they could have created a halfway decent sound chip (pretty embarrassing when you consider the previous console sounded better) and released it on schedule, it could have given Sega and Nintendo a run for their money. Don't get me wrong, Asteroids and a few other ports were decent at the time, it just didn't really shout next gen in my eyes.
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Post by toymachine78 on Apr 19, 2018 14:18:52 GMT
I'll go with the least played console at my place: the Atari 7800. I felt there was a lot of wasted potential and if they could have created a halfway decent sound chip (pretty embarrassing when you consider the previous console sounded better) and released it on schedule, it could have given Sega and Nintendo a run for their money. Don't get me wrong, Asteroids and a few other ports were decent at the time, it just didn't really shout next gen in my eyes. I asked for a 7800 for Christmas in 87. My brother begged me to get an NES, but I had never heard of it, I stuck with atari because it's all I knew. I had played mario bros though at the skating rink and loved it, but it didn't dawn on me that the NES was the home version from the company that had mario, punch out, and wild gunman in the arcade. All very popular games at the time. I guess I was too young. Well my friend got an NES, and once I saw how close mario bros was to the arcade, Zelda, and just how far advanced the games were, I was sold. I was sooo regretful for the 7800. Luckily my brother ended up buying an NES himself a few weeks later. After that, the 7800 became a paper weight.
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Post by soop on Apr 19, 2018 14:41:19 GMT
I'll go with the least played console at my place: the Atari 7800. I felt there was a lot of wasted potential and if they could have created a halfway decent sound chip (pretty embarrassing when you consider the previous console sounded better) and released it on schedule, it could have given Sega and Nintendo a run for their money. Don't get me wrong, Asteroids and a few other ports were decent at the time, it just didn't really shout next gen in my eyes. I asked for a 7800 for Christmas in 87. My brother begged me to get an NES, but I had never heard of it, I stuck with atari because it's all I knew. I had played mario bros though at the skating rink and loved it, but it didn't dawn on me that the NES was the home version from the company that had mario, punch out, and wild gunman in the arcade. All very popular games at the time. I guess I was too young. Well my friend got an NES, and once I saw how close mario bros was to the arcade, Zelda, and just how far advanced the games were, I was sold. I was sooo regretful for the 7800. Luckily my brother ended up buying an NES himself a few weeks later. After that, the 7800 became a paper weight. Your brother was smart, lesson learned (I hope). How much older was he? I remember telling my brother and sister that they should ask for Gameboys and Pokemon. I think brother got Blue and sister got pinball (smh) and then later yellow. The pain in the ass is, they completely fucked it from then on in. Aside from Tetris DX, everything they managed to buy was shovelware movie tie-ins like shrek (a beatem up) or the grinch which was an abysmal maze type game. I felt really sorry for them, angry at the publishers for preying on kids like that, and angry because my parents just forked out for whatever disappointment was asked for, despite knowing full well that I knew my shit. That put both of them off videogames for years until they got a PS2. Shit, even then (prepare yourselves), I was determined that this time, they were going to get good games, so I found a copy of Rachet and Clank 3 for a decent price. I remember the reviews were really good, and it was EXACTLY their jam. So for xmas, I came over, and I was super excited... and my mom watched them play for like 2 minutes, before saying no, turn it off, it's too violent. FML. They were destroying crates at the time. So they made me return Rachet and Clank, and let them continue playing (the excellent) Burnout 3, WHERE YOU CRASH VEHICLES VIOLENTLY AT HIGH SPEED. Not still bitter over that one at all.
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Post by toymachine78 on Apr 19, 2018 14:42:00 GMT
I asked for a 7800 for Christmas in 87. My brother begged me to get an NES, but I had never heard of it, I stuck with atari because it's all I knew. I had played mario bros though at the skating rink and loved it, but it didn't dawn on me that the NES was the home version from the company that had mario, punch out, and wild gunman in the arcade. All very popular games at the time. I guess I was too young. Well my friend got an NES, and once I saw how close mario bros was to the arcade, Zelda, and just how far advanced the games were, I was sold. I was sooo regretful for the 7800. Luckily my brother ended up buying an NES himself a few weeks later. After that, the 7800 became a paper weight. Your brother was smart, lesson learned (I hope). How much older was he? 6 yrs
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Post by _jash on Apr 19, 2018 16:12:43 GMT
least favorite system is an interesting concept and is purely based on opinion. I mean, there are dozens of systems I find less than desirable that I just don't really care for. like - CDi, Playstation, and 32X, sure... they're meh to me, but my least favorite? I dunno
I have to echo a few opinions on a console that I was so unbelievably disappointed in and that was the N64. I mean, the waiting and waiting for new games, on top of the complete lack of genres available made it such a shit show for a whopping 5 years. It really killed Nintendo for me and I've never really fallen in love with any consoles they've released since (The Wii being the best IMO).
But yeah, N64 killed off all of Nintendo's momentum from the 16-bit wars.
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Post by soop on Apr 19, 2018 16:40:34 GMT
I wonder if there's a bunch of people on an N64 forum somewhere, casually trashing the PC Engine
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