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Post by digipiggy on May 8, 2023 19:58:15 GMT
So some of the mini roms seemed to have been dumped around and i’ve been revisiting Fantasy zone and Salamander and surprised that apart from the gameplay tweaks and audio changes they also reworked the colours ? I’ve been testing out the originals and comparing with the mini updates.. Wonder why they went through all that trouble?  pce mini rom running on og pc engine  original pce ver  mini ver  original pce  mini ver  pce original  Salamander mini ver  pce original  left side mini. right side og pce version.  the other stages just seem the same    |
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Post by turboxray on May 8, 2023 21:33:19 GMT
What are you using to capture those shots from Fantasy Zone? They're complete blown out.
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Post by keithcourage on May 8, 2023 21:34:43 GMT
Yeah, So many people made it sound like these more arcade like versions were amazing or something. Once I heard the music for Fantasy Zone and Gradius I was like, Uh-uh. I prefer the originals music way more. Having the voices in Salamander is kind of neat though.
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Post by turboxray on May 8, 2023 21:46:27 GMT
Yeah, So many people made it sound like these more arcade like versions were amazing or something. Once I heard the music for Fantasy Zone and Gradius I was like, Uh-uh. I prefer the originals music way more. Having the voices in Salamander is kind of neat though. Really? The first level music in Fantasy Zone is much more layerd with more instruments too. It sounds way better. |
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Post by digipiggy on May 8, 2023 23:02:39 GMT
What are you using to capture those shots from Fantasy Zone? They're complete blown out. RGB modded pc engine = ossc = video capture card then there is this arcade version running on yakuza like a dragon  |
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Post by spenoza on May 8, 2023 23:47:17 GMT
I like the mini colors and music changes better. I’m firmly in the mini camp.
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Post by dshadoff on May 8, 2023 23:47:23 GMT
I would be interested to know how the original versions look on YUV compared to mini on RGB.
Original was officially composite, so this could be captured either composite->RetroTink, or Mednafen/MiSter with YUV-based palette.
The mini is RGB to HDMI, so they may have actually altered the palettes to compensate for the fact that they were blown-out when displayed as RGB... (This is the rationale behind comparing them in this way)
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Post by keithcourage on May 9, 2023 2:41:26 GMT
Yeah, So many people made it sound like these more arcade like versions were amazing or something. Once I heard the music for Fantasy Zone and Gradius I was like, Uh-uh. I prefer the originals music way more. Having the voices in Salamander is kind of neat though. Really? The first level music in Fantasy Zone is much more layerd with more instruments too. It sounds way better. The melody for both Gradius and Fantasy Zone sounds out of tune to me with its wobbling all over the place. It actually hurts my ears but then again, I have relative pitch as a musician so I'm sure it doesn't bother most people. |
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Post by turboxray on Jun 2, 2023 4:17:21 GMT
What are you using to capture those shots from Fantasy Zone? They're complete blown out. RGB modded pc engine = ossc = video capture card then there is this arcade version running on yakuza like a dragon There's something wrong in your data path for the pce+ossc then because those ranges are seriously way too hot. You're getting serious clipping and saturation is incredibly blown out. At least, from those screen captures. |
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