DutchDimension
Punkic Cyborg
Posts: 122
Homebrew skills: Pixel, 2D and 3D art
Fave PCE Shooter: Override
Fave PCE Platformer: Mizbak's Adventure
Fave PCE Game Overall: Too many to choose from
Fave PCE RPG: Ys series
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Post by DutchDimension on Nov 22, 2020 4:57:08 GMT
Johnny Turbo told me directly that strider was finished and he has the rom in storage. I don't really believe everything that guy says though! I'm not familiar with Johnny Turbo. Who is he? |
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Post by Black_Tiger on Nov 22, 2020 21:18:41 GMT
Johnny Turbo told me directly that strider was finished and he has the rom in storage. I don't really believe everything that guy says though! I'm not familiar with Johnny Turbo. Who is he? When the end of TTi was in sight, staff began wasting their advertising budget on a silly magazine ad comic starring a couple TTi employees who battled the evil SEGA FEKA, who they claimed were claiming that the Feka-CD was the world's first CD based console.
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Post by chopsticksamurai on Nov 23, 2020 5:54:06 GMT
Johnny Turbo told me directly that strider was finished and he has the rom in storage. I don't really believe everything that guy says though! I'm not familiar with Johnny Turbo. Who is he? A god among men. |
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esteban
Gun-headed
GOMOLA SPEED or GO HOME.
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Post by esteban on Nov 24, 2020 19:11:21 GMT
Johnny Turbo: Don't do research. Not at first.
First, just read the handful of mini-comics. TOTALLY FUN as entertainment, on any level (because... you'll see).
I think it is a wonderfully unique, wonderfully depressing moment in the SAGA of TG-16.
Compare this to the "edgy" advertising that other companies were doing at the time and it's just..... sad. Still, I am happy it exists, because it truly is a gift (I love pop culture with a "soul"... this has a lot of soul in it, IMHO).
FOR THE RECORD: Johnny Turbo, as a character, is rather bland... but EVERYTHING ELSE in this TG-16 North American universe is compelling (Tony, agents of FEKA, etc. etc.)
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Post by Mathius on Dec 1, 2020 23:06:22 GMT
Johnny Turbo: Don't do research. Not at first. First, just read the handful of mini-comics. TOTALLY FUN as entertainment, on any level (because... you'll see). I think it is a wonderfully unique, wonderfully depressing moment in the SAGA of TG-16. Compare this to the "edgy" advertising that other companies were doing at the time and it's just..... sad. Still, I am happy it exists, because it truly is a gift (I love pop culture with a "soul"... this has a lot of soul in it, IMHO). FOR THE RECORD: Johnny Turbo, as a character, is rather bland... but EVERYTHING ELSE in this TG-16 North American universe is compelling (Tony, agents of FEKA, etc. etc.) Well....Johnny Turbo did finally convince an adolescent version of myself to go "the Turbo Duo route" over Sega CD after, er, I had already gotten my Sega CD for Christmas. There was no way my dad, after scouring every retailer in Central Indiana to nab a Sega CD launch unit, would have ever went along with any of my nefarious plans to "switch". |
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esteban
Gun-headed
GOMOLA SPEED or GO HOME.
Posts: 94
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Post by esteban on Dec 10, 2020 2:05:36 GMT
Johnny Turbo: Don't do research. Not at first. First, just read the handful of mini-comics. TOTALLY FUN as entertainment, on any level (because... you'll see). I think it is a wonderfully unique, wonderfully depressing moment in the SAGA of TG-16. Compare this to the "edgy" advertising that other companies were doing at the time and it's just..... sad. Still, I am happy it exists, because it truly is a gift (I love pop culture with a "soul"... this has a lot of soul in it, IMHO). FOR THE RECORD: Johnny Turbo, as a character, is rather bland... but EVERYTHING ELSE in this TG-16 North American universe is compelling (Tony, agents of FEKA, etc. etc.) Well....Johnny Turbo did finally convince an adolescent version of myself to go "the Turbo Duo route" over Sega CD after, er, I had already gotten my Sega CD for Christmas. There was no way my dad, after scouring every retailer in Central Indiana to nab a Sega CD launch unit, would have ever went along with any of my nefarious plans to "switch". Are you sure this clearly wonderful man was not an agent of FEKA? Seriously, though, that is awesome. My brothers and I didn't get a Sega-CD until a couple years later (saving up $$$). I still remember the supreme disappointment of Sewer Shark. Wonderdog was a better game than Sewer Shark, but I didn't find that out until after precious $$$ was spent. |
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Post by SignOfZeta on Dec 10, 2020 22:38:15 GMT
I’ll always associate crappy FMV games...and even some good ones...with being yelled at by an actor every time I die and I mostly associate FMV games with dying since they almost always play very badly and give you a very poor idea of what it is you’re supposed to do.
In Sewer Shark it’s a...police chief or something, and he’s eating while yelling at you, is that right? Did I dream that?
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Post by nectarsis on Dec 12, 2020 2:38:12 GMT
but I wonder if the idea of re-use of the tech was ever even entertained. This would be VERY interesting... |
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Post by nectarsis on Dec 12, 2020 2:46:04 GMT
It’s quite a deviation from the rest of NEC’s sleek attractive designs. Even the much-hated TG16 looks better than a supergrafx. I actually like how the TG is designed. LIES!! lol SGFX design gets waaaay more hate than it should...more (comparatively) than that fat flounder TG. |
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Post by bigusschmuck on Dec 12, 2020 7:34:14 GMT
Totally forgot about that EGM article. 8 meg strider game only 20% kinda crazy but who knows how far along the went with it. It does give you a moment to pause though, if the TG16 and the Supergrafx were being developed at the same time, why not just release the Supergrafx here in the US and mark it up appropriately? I mean its got super in the title, gotta be good right?
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Post by SignOfZeta on Dec 12, 2020 7:49:45 GMT
I like the looks of the SGX just fine. The fact that it’s massive and that the HuCARD slot is upside down....the fact that it needs an adaptor to work with the IFU...that’s the Supergrafx for you. Stupid.
The TG-16 on the other hand...
...you know how in the early 90s when you rented a hotel it would only have a half dozen TV channels, one of which was Cinemax and one was the Christian Broadcast Network? If that wasn’t good enough they would rent you a VCR that’s playback only and locked into a giant blow molded case. You’d have to do this because even though you could bring a VCR with you, or even almost buy one for hotel rental price, the hotel TV, cable box, etc are all connected with security coax cable ends that make it so that even when you rent the bulletproof VCR they have to have a guy who has the special tool bring it to your room and install it.
And that hotel? They have a video game system to rent as well, it’s the TG-16
...thing looks like it should have a coin receiver on it. It’s big enough.
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Post by Black_Tiger on Dec 12, 2020 18:48:54 GMT
I like the looks of the SGX just fine. The fact that it’s massive and that the HuCARD slot is upside down....the fact that it needs an adaptor to work with the IFU...that’s the Supergrafx for you. Stupid. The TG-16 on the other hand... ...you know how in the early 90s when you rented a hotel it would only have a half dozen TV channels, one of which was Cinemax and one was the Christian Broadcast Network? If that wasn’t good enough they would rent you a VCR that’s playback only and locked into a giant blow molded case. You’d have to do this because even though you could bring a VCR with you, or even almost buy one for hotel rental price, the hotel TV, cable box, etc are all connected with security coax cable ends that make it so that even when you rent the bulletproof VCR they have to have a guy who has the special tool bring it to your room and install it. And that hotel? They have a video game system to rent as well, it’s the TG-16 ...thing looks like it should have a coin receiver on it. It’s big enough. The Genesis is more than one third larger than the TG-16 and the SNES is almost twice as big. The SNES has the exact same footprint as the VCR style NES and is only a half inch shorter. Making it closer in to the NES than Genesis and twice as tall as the TG-16... because even the footprint of the SNES is equal to the TG-16. The SNES looks like it should have a bill receiver and card reader. It's big enough. |
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Post by SignOfZeta on Dec 12, 2020 20:49:18 GMT
Totally forgot about that EGM article. 8 meg strider game only 20% kinda crazy but who knows how far along the went with it. It does give you a moment to pause though, if the TG16 and the Supergrafx were being developed at the same time, why not just release the Supergrafx here in the US and mark it up appropriately? I mean its got super in the title, gotta be good right?
Well, they cost more because they have more RAM so if it took off you’d be forced to continue making that thing. In the end though it would have just meant that the 250,000 units that nobody bought and sat around in TZD’s back room for twenty years would have been SGXs instead. But please, again, why? Show me a Supergrafx doing something in a retail game that a PCE can’t do in a situation where it’s actually noticeable. Seriously. I can’t even tell I’m playing a SGX game when I am. The thing is very very bad at being “super”. I can tell that a Super Nintendo is not a regular Nintendo. It’s really obvious to everyone, and an SGX cost more than a SFC and a FC *combined*. As a PCE fan, some day, you have to face the the fact that the SGX was pointless stupid and a ripoff. |
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Post by SignOfZeta on Dec 12, 2020 21:01:01 GMT
I like the looks of the SGX just fine. The fact that it’s massive and that the HuCARD slot is upside down....the fact that it needs an adaptor to work with the IFU...that’s the Supergrafx for you. Stupid. The TG-16 on the other hand... ...you know how in the early 90s when you rented a hotel it would only have a half dozen TV channels, one of which was Cinemax and one was the Christian Broadcast Network? If that wasn’t good enough they would rent you a VCR that’s playback only and locked into a giant blow molded case. You’d have to do this because even though you could bring a VCR with you, or even almost buy one for hotel rental price, the hotel TV, cable box, etc are all connected with security coax cable ends that make it so that even when you rent the bulletproof VCR they have to have a guy who has the special tool bring it to your room and install it. And that hotel? They have a video game system to rent as well, it’s the TG-16 ...thing looks like it should have a coin receiver on it. It’s big enough. The Genesis is more than one third larger than the TG-16 and the SNES is almost twice as big. The SNES has the exact same footprint as the VCR style NES and is only a half inch shorter. Making it closer in to the NES than Genesis and twice as tall as the TG-16... because even the footprint of the SNES is equal to the TG-16. The SNES looks like it should have a bill receiver and card reader. It's big enough. Hilarious. The TG-16 was literally inflated on purpose. It was made bigger than it had to be because someone (who was *really* wrong) thought it would only sell better that way. The huge hollow plastic cover that won’t stay on no matter what is big enough to put a PCE PCB in by itself. I can’t think of any game system in existence that was made larger for the US market including the controller sockets. Even if someone did do that you’d think they’d use the same PCB (which they did in fact do with the Mini version). I have no doubt that “Grafx” isn’t the only thing connecting these two dumb systems. It’s pretty obvious the same guy worked on them. Giant dumb failures. The SGX probably paid for itself at least because of the insane price. Most TG-16s probably sold for $50 if they even sold at all. |
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Post by Mathius on Dec 13, 2020 2:37:22 GMT
I actually loved Sewer Shark bitd and would really love to track down the 3DO ver one day. This is most likely due to me having a Sega CD "promo" mag that I analyzed relentlessly until every subatomic atom had been worn away. By that point I was so hyped by Sewer Shark that if it had ended up being a badger that relentlessly attacked my face I'd still consider it the greatest thing ever.
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