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Post by turboxray on Dec 29, 2019 21:48:13 GMT
European Turbografx + Everdrive with Fullset combo = godlike. Eww.. what?? Why?? That thing is a gimp'd/hack'd piece of crap haha.
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Post by spenoza on Dec 29, 2019 23:07:16 GMT
No, EA participation wouldn’t have helped much. There would have to be enough stuff different that nothing was the same for the poor system.
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Post by SignOfZeta on Dec 30, 2019 15:02:50 GMT
Do you like anything? Or does just everything suck all the time? The PC Engine is unlikely to ever have been a success in the US. There is no hypothetical scenario I can come up with in which the system was successful in the US against the competition. And the TG mini has, IMO, a slightly better game selection. Yes, because I don’t like your favorite thing I must hate everything. That’s astounding egocentric of you. I clearly LOVE PC Engine in a non-gimped iteration enough to pay double for a Mini that contains mostly games I already have. I liked the NEC stuff enough to spend hundreds on it back in the day. Meanwhile fans of the TG-16 couldn’t buy out the initial production run. A bunch of kids who can’t afford it liked it, we now know, I guess, but in general it was a total flop that had to have lost tons of money. Why spend more money making a new mini shell to commemorate that total failure? Because you have a Stormshadow tattoo? Well, that’s as good of an answer as anything but why not offer the white version next to it? It certainly wouldn’t raise costs since there is only one distributor world wide. Btw, unless I’m misunderstanding things both PCE Mini and it’s fat American cousin have the exact same game selection, just like the Genesis/MD Minis, and this has been stated multiple times in the thread. I guess I like stuff enough to pay more attention than you to some things.
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Post by _jash on Dec 30, 2019 16:30:10 GMT
The PC Engine is unlikely to ever have been a success in the US. There is no hypothetical scenario I can come up with in which the system was successful in the US against the competition. And the TG mini has, IMO, a slightly better game selection. I think a scenario where the PCE was (perhaps renamed TG-16) but left unaltered as a black version of the same exact shell as well as released in the US in 1988 gives NEC a shot. Having a full year head start against Genesis as well as full region free to immediately port (repackage) games overseas could have potentially done wonders.
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Post by spenoza on Dec 30, 2019 17:37:39 GMT
Yes, because I don’t like your favorite thing I must hate everything. That’s astounding egocentric of you. Are you daft? I was clearly being hyperbolic. You’re just so ascerbically negative in so many of your posts. You’re not so much a wet blanket as a wet linens store. Also, there is a minor title difference between the US/UK edition and the Japanese edition of the Mini console. The Japanese unit lacks Salamander and the US unit lacks Tengai Makyou 2 and Tomimeki Memorial. Also, the JPN unit only has the Japanese Splatterhouse while the International units have only the US version of Splatterhouse. Next time pay more attention.
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Post by Black_Tiger on Dec 30, 2019 18:18:35 GMT
Yes, because I don’t like your favorite thing I must hate everything. That’s astounding egocentric of you. Are you daft? I was clearly being hyperbolic. You’re just so ascerbically negative in so many of your posts. You’re not so much a wet blanket as a wet linens store. Also, there is a minor title difference between the US/UK edition and the Japanese edition of the Mini console. The Japanese unit lacks Salamander and the US unit lacks Tengai Makyou 2 and Tomimeki Memorial. Also, the JPN unit only has the Japanese Splatterhouse while the International units have only the US version of Splatterhouse. Next time pay more attention. I thought that the game selection changes when ypu change the language setting? Or am I thinking of the MD mini?
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Post by spenoza on Dec 30, 2019 18:52:02 GMT
You are thinking of the MD Mini, AFAIK.
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Post by Black_Tiger on Dec 30, 2019 20:01:00 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2019 21:37:33 GMT
No, EA participation wouldn’t have helped much. There would have to be enough stuff different that nothing was the same for the poor system. 1990 Genesis EA output:Sword of Sodan (big-sprite-em-up) Zany Golf, Budokan (platformer) John Madden Football Battle Squadron (Shooter) NBA Playoffs 1991 Genesis EA output:Blockout (puzzle) PGA Tour James Pond 1 & 2 M-1 Abrams Battle Tank (sim) Faery Tale Adventure, King's Bounty, Might and Magic II (all New World Computing RPG ports) F22 Interceptor (sim), The Killing Game Show (europlat), Shadow of the Beast, Marble Madness (marblemup???), Starflight (space sim), The Immortal (Anger-em-up), Road Rash (Beat-em-up-while-you-bike-em-up), Buck Rogers (RPG-em-up), Madden '92 ...and a few others. --- Yes it would and yes it would. Obviously not all games were programmed by them but I see no problem in believing EA would perform similarly if the 'grafx got in the US with a 2-year lead over the Genny Drive.
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Post by Black_Tiger on Dec 31, 2019 3:42:03 GMT
NHL Hockey was required to compete in Canada.
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Post by spenoza on Dec 31, 2019 13:06:20 GMT
I believe that is to switch between the US and JPN games on the system, not to grant access to the regional exclusives.
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Post by windy3ds on Dec 31, 2019 19:44:53 GMT
I cant wait! im really looking forward to the mini. I hope its not complete junk which is possible but im going to be positive about it and just hope for the best. Ive ordered 3 of them. 1 for me and then 1 for each of my kids. Let the Bomberman 94 wars commence.
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Post by paranoiadragon on Dec 31, 2019 20:59:57 GMT
Wasn't there a rumor that Nintendo of America was originally looking at bringing the PC engine over here? Tried looking that up recently but couldn't find anything while googling. I think that would have helped push the system a lot if that's true. Also I think the exclusive Mortal Kombat deal would have helped a lot I think. I'm not really into those games but a lot of people are so that would have helped to some degree. I agree that EA would have helped.
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Post by Black_Tiger on Dec 31, 2019 21:54:47 GMT
Wasn't there a rumor that Nintendo of America was originally looking at bringing the PC engine over here? Tried looking that up recently but couldn't find anything while googling. I think that would have helped push the system a lot if that's true. Also I think the exclusive Mortal Kombat deal would have helped a lot I think. I'm not really into those games but a lot of people are so that would have helped to some degree. I agree that EA would have helped. As Hudson was Nintendo number one thitd party publisher and had a relatively close relationship, they brought their hardware design to them first. But Nintendo's business model was based on gouging both publishers and consumers and they didn't want to share or lose out altogether on licensing and media sales. Same reason they changed their mind with both SNES CD-ROM partnerships. So instead Hudson wound up partnering with NEC to handle hardware manufacturing. I don't know if Hudson got a share of hardware sales, but I believe they got all of the game licensing money and maybe all of the HuCard production sales.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2019 22:18:48 GMT
NEC certainly got the short end of the stick with hardware royalties and had to pay Hudson for HuCard tech usage (iirc), which kinda explains why the PCE has so many unnecessary console variations.
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