exodus
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Post by exodus on Jan 31, 2019 5:10:22 GMT
I've got one - and I recently increased my library by about 10 titles. Finally got First Kiss Monogatari so I can own the one fighting game on the PC-FX, too  Interestingly, since most people know about the fighter in the US, it's pretty pricey on ebay. But in Japan nobody gives a crap, so I bought my copy for 1,000 yen. A traditional fighting game? I never even knew it had one of those haha. Only in secret! Here it is: www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XkiCVTI-cU |
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Post by AggieTsubi on Jan 31, 2019 14:22:19 GMT
Which HuneX game is May from anyway? Kana is from First Kiss Monogatari itself of course, and I know Asha is from Blue Breaker, but I can't place May.
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Post by Mathius on Jan 31, 2019 22:45:07 GMT
It's funny how they used old, stock PCE explosions for the impact sound effects. It's like they pulled them straight out of Raiden or Ninja Spirit. |
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Post by dshadoff on Jan 31, 2019 23:06:51 GMT
I've also got a PC-FX, and the whole library. I really never used it though, because of the language barrier.
But I've invested a lot of time on learning Japanese over the past several years, so maybe I should take it for a spin again, and see what is comprehensible versus still over my head.
Dave
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samiam
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Post by samiam on Feb 1, 2019 2:12:05 GMT
I've also got a PC-FX, and the whole library. I really never used it though, because of the language barrier. But I've invested a lot of time on learning Japanese over the past several years, so maybe I should take it for a spin again, and see what is comprehensible versus still over my head. Dave Japanese reviews often say that Nirgends is the single best digital comic book on the system, by virtue of its moving story and in spite of its clunky flight simulator sections. I think it also had a Windows port, but it relied on a very particular graphics card at the time, so it's essentially an exclusive today. It's one of a very small number of PC-FX games I'd like to eventually put on my "cleared" list. |
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Post by dshadoff on Feb 1, 2019 2:47:05 GMT
Japanese reviews often say that Nirgends is the single best digital comic book on the system, by virtue of its moving story and in spite of its clunky flight simulator sections. I think it also had a Windows port, but it relied on a very particular graphics card at the time, so it's essentially an exclusive today. It's one of a very small number of PC-FX games I'd like to eventually put on my "cleared" list. That's pretty interesting. I have found that most of the digital comics seem to have a lower comprehension barrier than corresponding RPGs - easier text/language, even if there is more of it to consume. Digital comic level is closer to middle-school, whereas RPGs aim more at mid-to-late high school level. About Nirgends, I'm sure that my comprehension is lower than yours - so are you saying: - that you are searching for this game in order to play it ? - Or that you have it, but can't find the time to play it ? - Or that it's still challenging for you even at your level ? Dave |
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samiam
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Post by samiam on Feb 1, 2019 5:04:25 GMT
That's pretty interesting. I have found that most of the digital comics seem to have a lower comprehension barrier than corresponding RPGs - easier text/language, even if there is more of it to consume. Digital comic level is closer to middle-school, whereas RPGs aim more at mid-to-late high school level. About Nirgends, I'm sure that my comprehension is lower than yours - so are you saying: - that you are searching for this game in order to play it ? - Or that you have it, but can't find the time to play it ? - Or that it's still challenging for you even at your level ? Dave Definitely the second option. Actually, to tell the whole story, I did start playing it at one point but stopped when I realized that I would need to invest time in getting better at the flight simulator sections. If I could find a cheat code to make those easier, that alone might make me pick it back up sooner rather than later. Anyway, digital comics do seem to provide a little more context in the scripts themselves, whereas typical RPGs rely a lot on staging and having the player assume certain things. Narration helps a lot, that's for sure. |
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exodus
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Post by exodus on Feb 2, 2019 4:52:29 GMT
Which HuneX game is May from anyway? Kana is from First Kiss Monogatari itself of course, and I know Asha is from Blue Breaker, but I can't place May. I'm not super up on my HuneX games, but I'm checking some, and it doesn't appear to be Fire Woman, or Go Go Birdy Chance, or sparkling feather... my first guess was pia carrot but I can't find her in there either! |
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Shirei89
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Homebrew skills: In training...
Fave PCE Shooter: Soldier Blade
Fave PCE Platformer: Saigo no Nindou
Fave PCE Game Overall: Gradius II
Fave PCE RPG: Emerald Dragon, Private Eyedol
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Post by Shirei89 on Feb 9, 2019 3:44:56 GMT
Which HuneX game is May from anyway? Kana is from First Kiss Monogatari itself of course, and I know Asha is from Blue Breaker, but I can't place May. I'm not super up on my HuneX games, but I'm checking some, and it doesn't appear to be Fire Woman, or Go Go Birdy Chance, or sparkling feather... my first guess was pia carrot but I can't find her in there either! Oh, I didn't know about this fighting game! Pretty cool Haven't played much PC-FX so figured I wouldn't know any of the characters, but May is the main char from Private Eyedol! That's one of my favorites on the PCE. Now I have to track down First Kiss Monogatari... |
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exodus
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Post by exodus on Feb 18, 2019 3:23:16 GMT
Oh really? I thought I checked private eye doll, but I guess I didn't do it carefully enough - thanks for solving the mystery!
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Post by filler on May 4, 2019 4:59:14 GMT
They're nearly all Digi Comics with adult themes. I'm no huge expert on the system but there may be only about ten traditional games on the system that aren't digital comics. And that might be an overestimate. I myself am fascinated with the early 32-bit period consoles like 3DO and Jaguar so the PC-FX scratches that itch. Others might not be so kind to it. FYI: This is a really played-out way of looking at the system. There are only 5 games that required a user to be over a certain age to have purchased them. There are as many otome games on the system as there are adults-only titles. The library consists mostly of ports of PC-98 games, and PC-styled releases such as RPG, strategy, and adventure games.
EDIT: So as to stay on topic, I own a PC-FX; three currently. Like dshadoff I also have a complete collection of games, and was in large part inspired by him to obtain a complete collection.
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Post by Mathius on May 5, 2019 1:42:21 GMT
They're nearly all Digi Comics with adult themes. I'm no huge expert on the system but there may be only about ten traditional games on the system that aren't digital comics. And that might be an overestimate. I myself am fascinated with the early 32-bit period consoles like 3DO and Jaguar so the PC-FX scratches that itch. Others might not be so kind to it. FYI: This is a really played-out way of looking at the system. There are only 5 games that required a user to be over a certain age to have purchased them. There are as many otome games on the system as there are adults-only titles. The library consists mostly of ports of PC-98 games, and PC-styled releases such as RPG, strategy, and adventure games.
EDIT: So as to stay on topic, I own a PC-FX; three currently. Like dshadoff I also have a complete collection of games, and was in large part inspired by him to obtain a complete collection.
Like I mentioned in my post I'm not as knowledgeable on the system as the PCE, so I'm not setting anything in stone here. It's good to know that there are more options available to me that won't upset the wifey lol. I'd love to see the PC-98 ports that you mentioned as I'm into Japanese computers. I own a X68000 and MSX2+. |
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Post by filler on May 5, 2019 3:31:49 GMT
Like I mentioned in my post I'm not as knowledgeable on the system as the PCE, so I'm not setting anything in stone here. It's good to know that there are more options available to me that won't upset the wifey lol. I'd love to see the PC-98 ports that you mentioned as I'm into Japanese computers. I own a X68000 and MSX2+. I hear a lot of folks without much exposure to the library repeat that sentiment. I think it's selling the system and game library short, but that also has to do with the divergent tastes of western PC gamers and Japanese PC gamers. Compared to anything western gamers are used to, Japanese PCs are going to have WAY more games of all kinds featuring pretty girls, including a bunch of romantic adventure games of various levels of inappropriateness. There's just nothing comparable in other gaming markets. In that respect it's no wonder that the PC-FX comes across as creepy, or "eww", but it's really just the PC gaming culture of the time.
That's cool that you have an X68K and an MSX2. I've always been interested in Japanese PCs but I don't own any aside from the Marty which I've only ever really checked out one game on. The PC-FX and Dreamcast both have a lot of PC ports however so I consider them honorary Japanese PCs for my purposes. I don't know exactly which all have releases on PC98 specifically but the following games/series all seem to have PC roots:
Angelique Special
Langrisser II (on PC-FX as Der Langrisser)
JB Harold Blue Chicago Blues
Lunatic Dawn (as Lunatic Dawn FX)
Power Dolls (as Power Dolls FX)
Return to Zork
Sotsugyou (Sotsugyou II, and Sotsugyou R - Graduation Real on PC-FX)
Super Real Mahjong PV (as Super Real Mahjong PV FX)
Ah! Megami-sama (I *think* this is a direct port, as it looks and plays like an older PC game. I think it's a port of the PC-98 game from 1993)
Welcome to Pia Carrot (the PC-FX version has full voice and anime opening)
Dragon Knight series (Dragon Knight 4 on PC-FX, I *think* the combat may be retooled)
Doukyuusei (Dokyuusei II on PC-FX)
Farland Story (as Farland Story FX)
For the record that's 4 RPGs, 4 galge/bishoujo adventure games, 2 (non-galge) adventure games, an anime based adventure game, a strategy game, an otome game, and (strip) mahjong game. There may be others. I just glanced at my shelf and picked the ones that I'm fairly sure have PC versions.
EDIT: BTW: What kind of stuff do you enjoy on the X60K & MSX2? |
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Post by Mathius on May 5, 2019 4:46:23 GMT
Thanks for the list!
For the original MSX I enjoy comparing how the system fared with its arcade ports, obscure action-RPGs, games that use Konami's amazing add-on chips for excellent sounding music, etc. On the MSX2 side it's basically the same story. Though we saw Compile doing work on the MSX, on the MSX2 they really shined with their shooters as well as with Golvellius. That game is of particular interest as it was ported to both standards similar to Falcom's Romancia.
For the X68000 Capcom's CPS arcade ports are widely known and naturally well done, plus the X68k has tons of shooters of varying quality. Non-Capcom arcade ports are fun to discover. Good times are also had by just randomly booting up games to listen to their tunes and enjoying their sprite work if the language barrier ends up being too high.
I should note that I'm using a compact flash system on both computers. On the MSX I use an actual Konami SCC cart that's been transformed into a flash cart. A CF board is used in the X68k but at the moment it's on the fritz. I own a very tiny selection of real games for both machines with the only standout being Akumajou Dracula on the X68k.
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Post by filler on May 6, 2019 4:17:27 GMT
Thanks for the list! For the original MSX I enjoy comparing how the system fared with its arcade ports, obscure action-RPGs, games that use Konami's amazing add-on chips for excellent sounding music, etc. On the MSX2 side it's basically the same story. Though we saw Compile doing work on the MSX, on the MSX2 they really shined with their shooters as well as with Golvellius. That game is of particular interest as it was ported to both standards similar to Falcom's Romancia. For the X68000 Capcom's CPS arcade ports are widely known and naturally well done, plus the X68k has tons of shooters of varying quality. Non-Capcom arcade ports are fun to discover. Good times are also had by just randomly booting up games to listen to their tunes and enjoying their sprite work if the language barrier ends up being too high. I should note that I'm using a compact flash system on both computers. On the MSX I use an actual Konami SCC cart that's been transformed into a flash cart. A CF board is used in the X68k but at the moment it's on the fritz. I own a very tiny selection of real games for both machines with the only standout being Akumajou Dracula on the X68k. Heh, one of us plays PC style games on consoles and the other plays arcade/console style games on PCs.  Sounds fun though. I've always thought the X68K graphics look amazing. Especially the shooters, but pretty much anything I've seen from that system. |
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Sounds fun though. I've always thought the X68K graphics look amazing. Especially the shooters, but pretty much anything I've seen from that system.
