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Post by spenoza on Oct 23, 2020 12:41:07 GMT
Don't Everdrives have functional issues with some Analogue units, anyway?
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sarge
Punkic Cyborg
Posts: 104
Fave PCE Shooter: Soldier Blade
Fave PCE Game Overall: Dracula X: Rondo of Blood
Fave PCE RPG: Dungeon Explorer II
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Post by sarge on Oct 24, 2020 4:25:31 GMT
My guess is that it won't matter anyway. There will likely be jailbroken firmware and you won't need to use an EverDrive.
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noelleamelie
Deep Blooper
Posts: 18
Homebrew skills: Musician (Tracker, MML, MIDI)
Fave PCE Shooter: Soldier Blade
Fave PCE Platformer: Rondo of Blood
Fave PCE Game Overall: Rondo of Blood
Fave PCE RPG: Ys IV: Dawn of Ys
Currently Playing: AliceSoft RPGs
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Post by noelleamelie on Oct 25, 2020 18:11:22 GMT
Analogue's products almost always being out of stock has kinda deterred me from wanting to get one - I really don't like the very limited availability scheme that's often used. I rarely have the money to buy them when they're available, and even when I do I just barely seem to miss the pre-order window... still, I hope whoever gets one really enjoys it, and maybe this time there'll be more available for purchase later on?
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Post by spenoza on Oct 25, 2020 21:15:37 GMT
Analogue is kind of a boutique operation, so I kind of don’t really blame them for not wanting a lot of stock hanging around. I suspect they try to ensure they will be able to sell every unit they build without having to sit on supply for very long.
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Post by Black_Tiger on Oct 26, 2020 1:07:38 GMT
Analogue is kind of a boutique operation, so I kind of don’t really blame them for not wanting a lot of stock hanging around. I suspect they try to ensure they will be able to sell every unit they build without having to sit on supply for very long. TerraOnion is very similar European outfit producing fpga based gaming devices and continues to manufacture all of their products. The difference between them is that TO caters to game players and Analogue exploits collectors.
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Post by spenoza on Oct 26, 2020 3:05:58 GMT
I don’t know that I agree with that distinction, but perhaps the reasoning that lead you to that opinion would help.
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Post by SignOfZeta on Oct 26, 2020 23:04:12 GMT
I’m for sure a player and I’m very interested in this new machine...for playing my games on, and no other reason.
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nicole
Gun-headed
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Fave PCE Shooter: Magical Chase
Fave PCE Platformer: Legendary Axe II
Fave PCE RPG: Ys III
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Post by nicole on Oct 26, 2020 23:28:59 GMT
Analogue is kind of a boutique operation, so I kind of don’t really blame them for not wanting a lot of stock hanging around. I suspect they try to ensure they will be able to sell every unit they build without having to sit on supply for very long. TerraOnion is very similar European outfit producing fpga based gaming devices and continues to manufacture all of their products. The difference between them is that TO caters to game players and Analogue exploits collectors. TerraOnion's products also go out of stock all the time sometimes for months; their marketing is less obnoxious than Analogue's (yes, you're "preserving history" with a proprietary FPGA reimplementation somehow, okay) but I don't see a difference in their practices.
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Post by Black_Tiger on Oct 27, 2020 16:14:55 GMT
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Post by spenoza on Oct 27, 2020 19:13:57 GMT
Oh, I think their early days of using chopped up consoles was a real problem, but early on those limited edition releases may have been the only way for them to really operate in the black financially. I think the market has matured a bit since then, however, and their products are coming down in price. There is nothing wrong with manufacturing limited runs of physical items when you're in a niche market (my beef is reserved for limited runs of digital products). I don't have a problem with premium products, either. I can see how someone might, and I respect that. But you're also casting aspersions about the quality of their products and their motives, which I don't see evidence for. It reads to me a lot like, "I don't like how they do business so they must be awful people." I'm sure your views are more nuanced than that, but I'm not getting that from your posts.
I should note that I'm not specifically any kind of Analogue apologist. I just don't have a problem with how they have been conducting their business over the past several years and I haven't seen any indications of compromised product quality or exploitation. Nobody who is in the market for their stuff is being duped or exploited.
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Post by dshadoff on Oct 27, 2020 19:40:02 GMT
I also think that opinion was a bit one-sided... and I'm also not an Analogue apologist. Personally, I have things I like about each, and that I don't like about each - and they come out about even. But to fact-check, NEO SD Pro looks like it won't be made again forums.terraonion.com/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=1841Terraonion has gone out-of-stock on SSDS3 and NEO SD products for periods similar to Analogue's stock-outs. And Terraonion had pre-announced BIOS updates for years which have yet to be delivered. Both have had aspects about shipping that bothered me, but both have also had a good bit of attention paid to the final product. But ultimately, they're for playing games that are 30 years old and more. These are not going to show up in Walmart, and constant supply shouldn't be assumed.
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Post by Sadler on Oct 28, 2020 1:45:18 GMT
Maybe the wrong place to ask this, but what's the deal with the turbo functionality with the 8BitDo controllers? The analogue pocket seems to have the same weird 4 button layout. Are the top buttons full turbo and the bottom not turbo? Does the turbo match the same speed as the original controllers? I was pretty happy to see the turbo functionality on the mini being close enough to the real thing that I couldn't tell a difference, but this 4 button thing has left me confused. Any one have any experience?
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Post by SignOfZeta on Oct 28, 2020 1:53:12 GMT
When used on a PCE Mini the top buttons are max turbo BUT...not as fast as an original controller. So Bonk doesn’t fly correctly.
It will vary based on system since in reality it’s a four button pad.
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Post by Sadler on Oct 28, 2020 1:59:12 GMT
When used on a PCE Mini the top buttons are max turbo BUT...not as fast as an original controller. So Bonk doesn’t fly correctly. It will vary based on system since in reality it’s a four button pad. Ah, that's a bummer. Thanks for letting me know.
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gheebee
Gun-headed
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Post by gheebee on Oct 28, 2020 3:27:54 GMT
Turns out there was a faq for this thing in their support section that mentions the Everdrive, it says "Duo supports everything that an original Turbo Duo, PC Engine, TurboGrafx-16 or SuperGrafx supports. To use an Everdrive with an acrylic top you may need to remove the acrylic piece to allow it to fit."; good news, it would have been shitty if it wasn't supported. Here's the faq: support.analogue.co/hc/en-us/articles/360051105131-Analogue-Duo-FAQ
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